im buying a new pc and i need your help

[ron26]

thats extremly loud very noisy

go for fx55 with your budget anything less is a wrong investment

[lox]

look is the pci express make any big diference from agp?

and is it make a difference if you get 1 gb DDR or 2 gb ddr?

and is 2 6600 with 256mb is better from 6800 GT or ultra with 256mb?

[Noam0101]

AGP and PCI Express give you exactly the same results where it comes to performance.

2GB of RAM can be an improvement, depending on how many things you keep in the memory.

and 1 6800GT is faster than 2 6600GTs in SLI.

You haven't answered my question yet - do you want watercooled specs? it will be much more silent than anything aircooled

[lox]

yeah sory i didnt answer

i think i want a water cooled system but is it relyable and what can you recomend?(do me a favor do another system with watter cooling insted of the first one you gave)

[Noam0101]

Water cooling is much more silent and powerful than air. As long as you test it for leaks, there wouldn't be any problems.

The system:

AMD Athlon64 3500+ S939 Processor, Retail $333.00 1 $333.00

Koolance CPU-300-H06 Cooler, GOLD $69.00 1 $69.00

Koolance AMD-64 CPU Adapter $15.00 1 $15.00

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum NF3 S939 Mainboard w/Audio/2xGBLan/SATA/RAID/FW $195.00 1 $195.00

Koolance GPU-180-L06 Video Cooler, GOLD $49.00 1 $49.00

OCZ Platinum DC 1GB (2x512) PC3200 EL CL2 DDR Memory $359.00 1 $359.00

Maxtor 300GB 7200RPM 16MB SATA Hard Drive OEM, 3Yr $292.00 1 $292.00

NEC 3500 16X Dual-Layer DVD±RW Drive SILVER, OEM $96.00 1 $96.00

Mitsumi 3.5" Floppy Drive $12.00 1 $12.00

Sapphire Radeon X800 XT 256MB DH Video Card w/VIVO, Retail $659.00 1 $659.00

Creative Labs SB Audigy2 Sound Card, OEM $61.00 1 $61.00

Lian-Li PC-V1100 Aluminum Mid-Tower Case BLACK, NO PS $349.00 1 $349.00

OCZ PowerStream 520Watt Power Supply $176.00 1 $176.00

Koolance Exos-Al Aluminum External Water System $325.00 1 $325.00

Total: $2990.00

I've checked reviews, and the koolance watercooling products are very good.

Regarding the case - Lian-Li is probably the best manufacturers of cases today. I can offer you a cheaper one if you want.

The koolance products are available at (canadian stores):

http://www.memoryexpress.com/FrameWaterCooling.php#Koolance

http://www.shoprbc.com/ca/shop/search.php?search=koolance&cid=0 (This is where i've assembled the system)

http://www.pcmuet.net/product_info.asp?iCatID=16

[lox]

say is the prices at www.ncix.com are already with tax?(in the pcbuilder)k bye

[Noam0101]

When you add anything to the shopping cart, it says

Shipping and final tax calculation will be calculated at checkout

[composite]

מה האינטרס שלך לתת לו 939 ניוקאסטל? מי עדיין קונה אותם?

בהנחה שאתה עכשיו ממיר לוינצ'סטר - הם לא עושים בוט עם טמפ' מתחת לאפס. זה באג מאוד מוזר שאף אחד לא יודע עליו.

אם הוא ילך על FX55 אז יקבל יותר תוצאות על אוויר - משהו כמו 2900-2800 יציב ו- 3000 Screenie אם יהיה לו מזל. 3.2 לפחות על קירור גז.

ה- Mach II יהיה יותר טוב להחזקות של עד 200W. עד שם הוא חזק מה- ls.

אבל מ- 200W ומעלה המאך נופלת כמו אבן ואז ה- LS תהיה יותר טובה.

ואתה לא נראה לי MaxOCer אז הייתי הולך על המאך.

אבל מצד שני, אין לך אחריות עליה, וקשה להשיג cpukits והם עולות המון. אבל יש שמועות שחברה אחרת קנתה את nventiv, ואז תוכל לקבל אחריות.

רק שתדע... שפתיחת הפאנל אצל ה- ls מפירה אחריות... lol , ואם אתה הולך על הצ'יל תדאג לקבל rev1.2.

עוד דבר:

השילוש שאתה נותן כאן במפרט mcfly שלא הולך ביחד הוא: Winnie + MSI K8N2 + OCZ powerstream. יש המוןןןן בעיות עם השילוש הזה.

הרבה פעמים לא עושה בוט. שמוסיפים קירור מתחת לאפס אז בכלל נהיה בלאגן. אם אתה הולך על אוויר או מים וינצ'סטר ונאו יהיו מושלמים. אם יהיו לך בעיות עם הספק תבקש מ- OCZ rma מידי.

אגב.. למפרט כזה לא הייתי מתפשר על ספק כוח שהוא פחות מ- PC Power & Cooling 510W Deluxe. אז קצצו בדברים אחרים ושימו לו את החייה הזו.

הרדאונים והג'יפורסים מבצעים כמעט אותו הדבר כמעט בכל מבחן, כל עניין של טעם אישי והבדלים פה ושם.

PCI-E ו- AGP יתנו לך את אותם ביצועים, אפילו יתרון קל ל- AGP בגלל הלוחות הבוגרים משמעותית.

[lox]

k but how much longer will the agp hold?

im afraid to spend a lot of mony on a good agp video card and then the agp will disapeareand it will be like i though my money out!!! please help me...

thanx

bye

[Noam0101]

Well, AGP is in the end of it's life. But until the X800XT will become a weak card a long time will pass, and you will still have a good mobo for it. If you want PCI-E, you will have to wait a week or two until some mobos with socket 939 and a chipset which supports PCI-E will become available.

[lox]

so now i should buy a good video card for agp and then in 2 years upgrade the motherboard and video card to the new generation?

and i have one more question when does the 6800 and x800 come out for pci express may be i should wait untill then?

thanx

bye

[Noam0101]

The X800 is already available on PCI-E, so you can take an X800XT. It's only a matter of 1-2 weeks until PCI-E motherboards will be available in north america, so the waiting is not so long if you are willing to wait.

[Bessmertniy]

its a good PC that some one here recommanded for you

ASUS A8V DELUXE MOTHERBOARD ATHLON64 S939 K8T800PRO DUAL DDR AGP 5PCI SATA 1394 SOUND 1000LAN [176.70]

AMD Athlon 64 FX-55 PROCESSOR S939 2.6GHZ 1MB CACHE RETAIL BOX [1127.74]

THERMALRIGHT XP-90 S478/754/939 92MM ALUMINUM HEATPIP COOLER *FAN NOT INCLUDED* [50.18]

SILENX 14DBA SILENT CASE FAN 92MM 2000RPM 36CFM 3/4PIN [24.17]

CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY 2 ZS 7.1 1394 PCI RETAIL BOX [116.97]

OCZ DUAL CHANNEL OPTIMIZED PLATINUM 2X512MB DDR PC3200 HEAT SPREADER REV.2 CL 2-2-2-5 [388.50]

CHAINTECH APOGEE GEFORCE 6800 GT 256MB DDR3 AGP8X VGA DVI-I TV OUT VIDEO CARD [540.71]

HITACHI DESKSTAR 7K250 SATA 160GB HARD DRIVE SERIAL ATA 8MB 7200RPM OEM [132.59]

NEC ND-3500A DVD+-RW 16X4X16 DUAL LAYER+R 4X INT IDE OEM W/ SW BEIGE [94.01]

BENQ 1650S 16X DVD-ROM INT. IDE BEIGE W/ SW OEM [36.77]

1.44 MB High Density Floppy Drive [9.23]

ANTEC NEOPOWER 480W POWER SUPPLY ATX12V PS/2 DUAL 12V RAILS ACTIVE PFC W/ DETACHABLE OUTPUT CABLES [149.02]

THERMALTAKE TSUNAMI VA3000 ALUMINUM CASE 4X5.25 2X3.5 5X3.5INT NO PS SILVER MIRRORED [147.20]

but only 1 advice for you

take off the sound card and insted invest in a x800XT PE.

bye have fun .

[lox]

yes i am willing to wait im not rushing anywere...

and say all the x800 available on pci express?and whats with the GeForce 6800?

thanx

bye

[Noam0101]

Both the X800XT/PE and the PRO are available on PCI-E:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-131-290&depa=0

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-394&depa=0

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-438&depa=0

Also, you have the X850 coming soon (but there's no point in waiting for it, no real performance improvement)

The 6800s are not available on PCI-E yet, it could take up to 2 months until they will be available